December 9, 2009

  • Question 199 - Question about charges of Plagiarism

    I know you are very busy. I hope to get through to you via this email.  A friend posed this site against you in re to the accusation of plagerism etc. Can you direct me to a page off your site to answer these falsehoods?  I've searched your site and could not find it.

     

    thanks

     

    Chuck

     

    R. Sungenis: Chuck, thank you for bringing this to my attention. As for the charge of plagiarism, it is ludicrous. The guy who originally levied the charge has since apostasized and joined the Seventh Day Adventist church. His name is William Cork. His wife is Jewish and he saw me as a threat to the Jews when I was only trying to point out their errors so as to protect Catholics from their deception. So he organized a massive campaign against me beginning in 2002. In one of my essays on the Reflections on Covenant and Missions document that issued by Cardinal Keeler and Jewish rabbis in 2002, I had included some cutting and pasting from various articles about the Jews, the Talmud, Judaism, etc., that I saw on the Internet. I was then accused of plagiarism for this cutting and pasting. It was not plagiarism. Plagiarism is the unlawful stealing of the original work of the author, a work that the author did not get from other sources. The material I cut and pasted was already known and documented by many sources, and the source from which I took it had already admitted to getting it from other sources. Furthermore, I had never been accused of plagiarism either before or after Cork's charges, and all one need do is read my books to see that I have the most meticulous footnotes of any Catholic author on the market. Every fact I obtain from another source is religiously footnoted. So there simply is no paper trail for them to substantiate their charges.

     

    In the bigger picture, you have to understand that these guys were seeking to destroy me for my outspokenness about the Jews. They wanted me off the Catholic map. They wanted to make it look like I was dishonest and that my scholarship couldn't be trusted, since it was attacking the Jews. I was one of the premier Catholic apologist before 2002, having had many shows on EWTN, having written two of the most popular Catholic books (Not By Faith Alone and Not By Scripture Alone), and having debated many Protestants and actually winning the debates. That all changed when I took on the Jewish issues, and the Geocentrism issues. I became a pariah. But I am in this game for the truth, not popularity. It has paid off in many ways. This past year the bishops of the United States voted to take out a heretical sentence from the 2006 United States Catholic Catechism for Adults. Page 131 had stated that the Mosiac covenant was still valid for the Jews. I was the only Catholic in the world to point out this error. I wrote to the Vatican and the US bishops two years prior. Finally, in June 2008, the bishops voted 231 to 14 to eliminate the sentence. This shows you what seeking only for truth will do. But it also shows me that no other Catholic apologist was willing to stick his neck out on this and many similar issues, mainly because they all fear reprisal from the Jews and their supporters. I am different than they are, and I have been viciously attacked because of it. But I am the one getting the results.

     

    If you have any further questions, please let me know.

     

    God be with you both.

     

    Robert Sungenis

Comments (1)

  • I'm not accusing Mr. Sungenis, but if you take someone else's published words or ideas and use them like they're your own that's plagiarism. Especially if it's word for word.  Changing a couple of words afterwards doesn't fix it, either.  The guy's apostasy (Cork) doesn't really have anything to do with whether or not Mr. Sungenis plagiarized.

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    Plagiarize: to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting the
    source. intransitive verb: to commit literary theft : present as new and original an idea or product derived from an existing source (Merriam-Webster)

    Plagiarism: The action or practice of taking someone else's work, idea, etc., and passing it off as one's own; literary theft. (Oxford English Dictionary).

    I googled Sungenis and plagiarism and a lot of articles came up.  If he gets the time, can he answer these straight on?  They make some good points.  Maybe he can answer them.  If I'm understanding this right, then the plagiarism wasn't the only issue.  It was what was plagiarized (some prejudiced sources against Jews).

    Thanks.

    http://fringewatcher.blogspot.com/2009/07/robert-sungenis-is-at-it-again.html

    http://wquercus.com/sungenis/

    http://sungenisandthejews.blogspot.com/2007/04/sungeniss-definition-difficulties.html

    http://sungenisandthejews.blogspot.com/search/label/plagiarism

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