November 7, 2009

  • Question 192 - Ocean Tides and Geocentrism

    Dr. Sungenis,

    I’ve been having a rather lively debate with some of my colleagues with regard to geocentrism.  Some of them are open minded; most think I wear tinfoil on my head and talk to aliens (never mind the fact that I must surely believe the earth is flat).

    The subject of ocean tides came up and I am at a loss as to how to explain them in the geocentric model.  I have poured through the Newtonian physics and done quite a bit of math but am still confused.  What I was able to determine was that according to Newtonian physics, the Solar Tidal Pull is only .46 of the Lunar Tidal Pull.  However, when using the same calculations, the Earth Tidal Pull is 17,855,227 of the Lunar Tidal Pull.  Unless I’ve done my math wrong (which is a good possibility), the moon should have no measurable influence on the Ocean Tides.  If that is true what does cause tides?

    Rick Orr

    Rick,

    Yes, you are quite correct that the moon doesn’t have enough pull to pick up millions of tons of ocean water, but that is a fact that is rather hidden from public consumption. Current cosmology really has no explanation for earth’s tides. They are no further along than Galileo was when he said that the tides prove the earth rotates.

    What I believe occurs in the geocentric system is that the universe has more mass at the east-west quadrant than its north-south quadrant. As the universe rotates around the earth, the greater mass on opposite sides of the universe’s east/west quadrants will pull the earth’s water in opposite directions, almost like one was expanding an accordion with both hands. This will make the water rise on eastern and western “sides” of the earth and make it decrease on the northern and southern sides (but these boundaries are not exact by any means, since we are dealing with a sphere).

    Since it takes 24 hours for the universe to rotate, and since there are two masses on opposite “sides” of universe pulling the earth’s water as the universe rotates, then there will be two tides each 24-hour day (two high tides and two low tides) all over the earth.

    The earth, as a stationary body, is not affected by the universe’s vector pull (that is, there is no net force that would move the earth out of its central position in the universe) since the force from the universe is always equal on both “sides” of the earth. In other words, the universe can’t pull the whole earth to the east or west because the net force on the earth, as one solid body, is zero. But the net force on the earth’s water is different because it is fluid. It would be like putting a stocking over a ball and pulling the stocking from opposite ends. The stocking will be stretched in opposite directions, but the ball will remain stationary. Also, as the stocking is stretched, at the same time that the east/west vectors of the stocking are elongated (which represents a high tide), the north/south vectors of the stocking will be truncated (which represents a low tide).

    I have attached a crude diagram of this explanation.

    Let me know if it helps.

    Robert Sungenis